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Comment/feedback # 26            

How do you want people to support a Fugitive. This is the same guy who swindled many Asians and you are supporting him. I thought we are supposed to be an ethical organization. When you are Asian we are under microscope.At the same time pl's Don't Forget To Follow campaign Laws. Having money donated under other names, is considered Money Laundering. And this is not the end of this story. Peter Singh.     For commenting on #26

Comment/feedback # 27   (A feedback on # 26 )            
DEAR READERS: You may want to read the following interesting interchange between me and Mr. Singh. They show how Asian Ams are really beginning to work together even when we at first disagree with each other. Mr. Singh: Do you always comment on other's email, WITHOUT FIRST READING IT? We didn't support Hsu at all. Read before you speak! SB     For commenting on #27

Comment/feedback # 28   (A feedback on # 27 )            
Mr. Wioo: I know ! I also would like it better if you address e/mails politely rather than telling me off ! My apology for not reading through. Also it will be appropriate to back Candidate who is better chance of winning and working with them for enlightening our course in future. Thanks. Peter     For commenting on #28

Comment/feedback # 29   (A feedback on # 28 )            
Dear Peter: It is really magnamous of you to admit that you didn't through my email before you commented. :-) My apologies for being rude and "told you off." 80-20 believes that commitment from a candidate to help the Asian Am. community is the most important factor. After that comes the consideration of the likelihood that a candidate will winning. Once a candidate gets into the White House, there is NO chance whatsoever that he/she will still work with you. He/She iwll have ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 24            
Mr. Woo, Did not know why my previous reply from DuPont email was encrypted. I just want to let you know that I have been following your emails and appreciate your suggestions. The Hsu case was featured on Wall Street Journal over the weekend. It did not clarify what exactly the wrong doing is. Can you explain a little more?     For commenting on #24

Comment/feedback # 25   (A feedback on # 24 )            
Hsu was NOT arrested for a direct violation of the campaign finance law. After he became known as 1 of the 10 biggest donors to Democratic causes, Wall Street Journal published an article about him. That publicity led to the knowledge that he was under arrest warrant in Calif. That then led to politicians shunning him. Thus far that is the only legal reason that he wass in trouble. Besides that, there is suspicion that he might be using other people's name but his money in order to bypass c ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 22            
Dear Dr Wu. Here is an incident reported on the popular radio talk show last night. The talk show host Michael Savage was speaking strongly for Ed Jew. 80-20 should mobilize its force in the Bay area to look into this and may support this Asian American. Best Regards Eric Zhang     For commenting on #22

Comment/feedback # 23   (A feedback on # 22 )            
Dear Eric: I don't know anything about the "Ed Jew" matter. Please email Joel Wong who is the person in charge of looking into such matters. joelwong@comcast.net Thanks. SB     For commenting on #23

Comment/feedback # 21            
There are many good Senators and Congressmen.Congresswomen are elected without larger campain funds. They show that they were won by votes not funds. Senator Biden will be another example. Clinton will be overcome by John Edwards, Joe Biden easily. Chinese Americans need to fight Equal Rights first to survive or live better. Keep Good work ! Hui     For commenting on #21

Comment/feedback # 20            
I agree with comment #19. If there is strong evidence that N.Hsu, in fact, is a fugitive, then the issue is really how the media is handling his arrest, as opposed to his being arrested. I do feel a virulent need by the media to criticize and demonize China and feel Norman Hsu's arrest could be a campaign by Republicans to link the Democrats with illegal Asian money, and thereby feed on the anti-Asian sentiment. The timing is too obvious. My last name is "Hsu" and I noticed this week ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 19            
Some media guru, I think, ought to probe into the intricasies of this scandal, and make a number of fine diffeentiations: (a) Norman Hsu the businessman accused of being fraudulant and Norman Hsu the fundraiser and generous contributor to politicians are two separate persons that must NOT be confused; (b) Like anyone else, Norman Hsu the accused should be presumed innocent until proven guilty through the proper judicial proceedings; (c) Whatever his fault, even when proven, Norman Hsu shoul ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 17            
Important timely advice. Another recent one was Vinod Gupta. Som     For commenting on #17

Comment/feedback # 18   (A feedback on # 17 )            
He has been accused but not convicted. Here is one article about Mr. Gupta. "Vinod Gupta flays NYT over 'smear campaign' (CNN Pollster decries 'hatchet job on Hillary and me') rediff.com (India) ^ | May 28, 2007 | Aziz Haniffa"     For commenting on #18

Comment/feedback # 14            
Dear S. B. Do you have any more information about N. Hsu? Today's Wall Street Journal headline states that he has been arrested? And any information about the related Paw family? Does it not seems to be a usual scandal? Hsu's business is based in Hong kong. Is he oringanlly from H.K. or from the mainland? Or from Taiwan? What could be his motivation in making such type of generous political fund raising efforts? Just curious. Richard Chu     For commenting on #14

Comment/feedback # 16   (A feedback on # 14 )            
Dear Richard: Good questions. Many others will likely be interested in their answers. So I am answering you thru. this poster board. 1) Hsu turned himself in, was arrest, and then freed on bail ($2,000,000) See "Fugitive Fundraiser Hsu Jailed ..." - The Los Angeles Times, 8/31/07 http://www.latimes.com/business/la-na-hsu1sep01,1,4862233.story. 2) The Paw family is now living in an unknown location other than their home in NY 3) This scandals will die out unless it can be shown that the ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 13            
The messages are loud and clear. And yes, I now know who Norman Hsu is. You are right on the money. Keep up the good work and I will catch up with you soon. Best, Henry     For commenting on #13

Comment/feedback # 11            
Chinese have an old saying "????? ????" (If those in power need to criminalize somebody, they can always find a name). American's legal system is clearly more fair and fine tuned than the Chinese system. But could politics still have a hand in case like Hsu's? If he was a Jewish American, will he be treated differently? DZ     For commenting on #11

Comment/feedback # 12   (A feedback on # 11 )            
Jewish Ams and indeed the entire Jewish Am community take politics extremely seriously. A Jewish Am, especially a big donor and a fundraiser, is extremely unlikely to be as ignorant about the campaign finance law as many of the AsAms fundraisers were. On the other hand Jewish Ams community has political clout, and we don't. Could that made a difference in the real world? Of course. We only have ourselves to balme however. Most Jewish Americans give generously to its public service and poli ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 9            
Hsu's case also appears to be a case that Asian Americans, the immigrants in particular, are not very (knowledgeable) about the law of this country. If Hsu donated money to 80-20 which in turn donated money to Clinton, will 80-20 be put under a negative light as well after Hsu's felony offense came to light? thanks Dezheng     For commenting on #9

Comment/feedback # 10   (A feedback on # 9 )            
A good question! Normally no. Since Hsu's giving to 80-20 is one decision and 80-20's giving to Hillary are two independent decisions. Indeed, if Hsu were to give to 80-20 Educational Foundation, then given EF's record in educating Asian Ams in politics, the media may even come to a conclusion that Hsu has served some redeeming function. Note that the politicians were giving their "Hsu money" to public service orgs. 80-20 EF which educates AsAms regarding Am. politics will be one ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 7            
S. B.: You are absolutely right! James C. Hsiung Professor of Politics New York University (212) 998-8523 19 West 4th St.,Rm 222 New York, NY 10012     For commenting on #7

Comment/feedback # 8   (A feedback on # 7 )            
Thank you, James. Having the stamp of approval from a Professor of Politics of NYU is very important to me. SB     For commenting on #8

Comment/feedback # 4            
Mr. Woo, Good points....We met few years ago when you came to Houston.=C2=A0 Please t= ake my respect as to your effort for what you did for Chinese American. I read most of your mails when i have time.=C2=A0 Thanks again. Regards, Edward I. Tsao, architect Edward I. Tsao Architects, Inc. Corporate Office Plaza 6918 Corporate Drive Suite B-3 Houston, Texas 77036     For commenting on #4

Comment/feedback # 6   (A feedback on # 4 )            
Thank you so much for your kind words. May I ask you to consider joining 80-20 as a a member, indeed perhaps as a Life Member? Judging from your title, I have financial difficulty to join as a member. Forgive me for speaking in such a straight forward manner. My same quality/defect is what enables me to send out messages which you said that you liked. We need help in words as well in deeds. Thank you. SB     For commenting on #6

Comment/feedback # 1            
Very good email. Would be even better if you supply the links for those newspapers articles. I consider myself pretty wellread. Still, until your email, I know nothing about Norman Hsu. Several months ago you started your coaching series with this email explaining about how a presidential nominees are elected. I find that series very informative too. But maybe you can also explain what the primaries are and their importance?     For commenting on #1

Comment/feedback # 2   (A feedback on # 1 )            
Very informative "Kingmaker" Political Secrets II email. More power to you and information emails like this!     For commenting on #2

Comment/feedback # 3   (A feedback on # 1 )            
Sorry that I didn't apply the URL. Some newspapers such as Washington Post doesn't provide an email version. But here is two URL. Democrats Turn From Hsu http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-hsu31aug31,1,2275678.story? Democrats Abandon Fundraiser http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/30/MNB3RRKL9.DTL . The news was reported in Wall St. Journal, which broken the news and NY Times as well, which published a front page article. The same news was i ... more ...

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A New Asian Am. Scandal?

    80-20 EF's "Don't Be Made A Sucker" was only 6 days old, when
another Asian Am. who raised funds for Sen. Clinton is clobbered in the
media and will probably end up in jail. His name is Norman Hsu. By now,
you have likely heard of him.

    What can be learned form this and other similar campaign finance
scandals that have occurred too frequently in OUR community?

    I like to suggest 3 DOs.

1) Respect the rules of democracy,
2) Realize that in Asia, people like us live as a part of the majority.
   Therefore, politics can be a hobby and is often used for personal gains.
   In the US, we live as a small minority, with much prejudice against us.
   Therefore, politics is a must because we need GROUP political clout
   to defend ourselves.
3) To achieve the above, we must give time and money to political orgs
   such as the 80-20 PAC. That is how Jewish Ams and Cuban Ams won
   their equal opportunity and justice.

    To help get the above points across, here are 3 DO- NOTs.

1) Don't ever go against the laws governing politics/elections in America,
2) Don't be seduced by the sweet talks of politicians. Examine their record
   of service to us before helping them,
3) Don't believe that politicians will do things for us unless we have
   the clout to reward or punish their political careers.

    How are Norman Hsu's political friends treating him now? Just read these
headlines.

   "A Fundraiser Shunned" - The Washington Post, 8/30/07
   "Democrats Turn From Hsu" - The Los Angeles Times, 8/30/07
   "Democrats Abandon Fundraiser бн " - San Francisco Chronicle, 8/30/07

    All this after Norman Hsu has given/raised so much money for Sen. Clinton
and other Democratic candidates. Now you know why 80-20 PAC sent
questionnaires to presidential candidates and asked for signed written answers
in Yes or No.

    To read "Political Secrets VI: Don't Be Made A Sucker" again, visit
http://www.80-20educationalfoundation.org/posterboard.html . Your
comments to be left at poster board will be most welcome.

    Forward this and the above email to your friends. They may benefit from them.
Support 80-20! We work for you free. Some of us have even promised not to
run for offices and NEVER to accept a government appointment.

Best regards,

S. B. Woo
President,
80-20 Educational Foundation